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Chhris
comment|68443|273557

Did they send you a FEC and an invitation letter that you converted into a Z visa?

Jan 21, 2016 22:35 Report Abuse

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smotlachovap
comment|68453|1613016

Yes, I have my Z visa already in the passport, I was suprised how smoothly it went..

Jan 22, 2016 14:17 Report Abuse

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VadimKonorov
comment|68467|1604197

Tell me, pls, how did you get it? Do you have TEFL/TESOL certificate? Where is your job: in north or southeast part of China? Thank you in advance.

Jan 23, 2016 09:50 Report Abuse

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smotlachovap
comment|68473|1613016

Hi, sure! Yes, I have TEFL certificate, University degree, some experience..I wrote all about the process here - http://englishteacherinchina.blogspot.cz/

Jan 24, 2016 03:21 Report Abuse

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VadimKonorov
comment|68475|1604197

Thank you. I also have some teaching experience. I'll read your articles there.

Jan 24, 2016 09:23 Report Abuse

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Guest14480640
comment|68476|1608960

@smot, curious have you ever dated an Asian guy?

Jan 24, 2016 16:20 Report Abuse

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smotlachovap
comment|68477|1613016

Nope, I havent. Why?:D

Jan 24, 2016 19:15 Report Abuse

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Guest14480640
comment|68492|1608960

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5FmOlEWU-Y

Jan 25, 2016 04:30 Report Abuse

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smotlachovap
comment|68495|1613016

Haha..it is hilarious! I wanna an Asian boy now!:D

Jan 25, 2016 05:16 Report Abuse

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umzung
comment|65484|1578984

Walk like an Egyptian.

Oct 13, 2015 15:56 Report Abuse

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Guest14237340
comment|58375|1581926

That is so true! Most schools here in China only care about whether you’re a native speaker of English but not in all cases. I’m not a native myself, but somehow I’ve managed to land a good job here in Hubei. You may have to be aggressive though like you’d have to scout for schools and apply in person rather than online if you’re already residing in China. What I’m saying is, you have to let them hear you speak first. At that time, I had my interview through skype and I already doubted my chances, especially that I didn’t have TESOL/TEFL certificate yet but I have already been teaching Chinese students online for two years. Much to my surprise, the school was very pleased to hire me at the end of the interview and even emailed me the contract straightaway- which lead me to questioning the kind of enthusiasm. So, during our second conversation, I asked the same interviewer awkwardly how I got through the job at their uni (may sound funny that I’m questioning my own credibility here, but seriously?), and she’s told me these exact words : ‘I heard you speak, you sound like a native and that’s all that matters.’ Of course I still had my doubts as I didn’t wanna get scammed, so I did my homework- done an extensive research about the school and even asked some of my former online students to check it for me. It turned out that it’s a reputable school and so I jetted off to China without any hesitations :) I’ve only been here for 7 months and aside from teaching at the university, I also teach kids at a training center. There are thousands of schools and ESL training centers around China and I’m sure there are still some that have good judgment with regards to hiring ESL teachers. As one of my colleagues (British) told me ‘not all native speakers can teach. It’s a skill.’ You just have to be aggressive, and have good strategies in getting through the gate which says “native speakers only”. I’m pretty sure that many of you here write or speak better than I am, so if you haven't found it yet, just keep looking. :)

Apr 10, 2015 10:33 Report Abuse

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stoneb2gh2
comment|65160|44484

good man, i am always aggressive , i dont give a fuck about natives, is all about the skills and how you approach to the books. getting the books and cant even know how to start when in the classroom is shit, im from GHANA, and living here for almsot 5 years, married to a chinese for 2 years now and have a little cute fair coloured baby girl, who are the natives when we ask?you think only AMERICANS are the people that can speask very good english, hell no, then ask yourself why they still continue to learn in school and in the universities? i know some Americans that cannor even pass TESOL, thery always fail and the non native speakers passes.well i had a good job though the salary not good but i am bale to manage with my chinese wife and my little baby

Sep 30, 2015 09:39 Report Abuse

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Guest14226766
comment|57104|1580751

Thanks for your great article and comments. I am going to get married to my Chinese fiance, getting worried about my future over there.

Mar 16, 2015 17:41 Report Abuse

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Dannykjn
comment|46799|288107

i have to agree

May 27, 2014 17:02 Report Abuse

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Eid
comment|36245|241958

Well said! that is actually true

Mar 25, 2013 09:28 Report Abuse

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Guest513214
comment|36230|57023

too bad there is no tip regarding skin color

Mar 23, 2013 12:41 Report Abuse

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masonk
comment|37258|76531

I agree, this article should've addressed the whole 'native speaker' who isn't white scenario.

May 14, 2013 12:31 Report Abuse

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honky
comment|36221|237572

RitaB, as a Slavic woman, I can relate to your troubles. :)I am still in Europe, though, but I`ve been lurking online for some work opportunities, due to very sad and gloomy economic situation here in the Balkans. It makes sense to me that employers in the education field seek only native speakers, from my understanding it is a basic requirement for obtaining Z visa? And of course, there is always the matter of an accent. :)

Mar 22, 2013 18:03 Report Abuse

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RitaB
comment|36226|242174

Yes, I agree with you completely. But the thing I find frustrating is that the passport is ALL some employers care about. No matter how good your credentials and English are. And at the same time they often hire people with not even a college degree just for being native speakers....I also think that experience, education and professionalism can often outweigh the "nativeness". Not to slander anyone, of course.

Mar 22, 2013 22:05 Report Abuse

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lovedude
comment|36366|88842

I do agree with you that "nativeness" shouldn't be the only thing, after I met couple of Americans with previous experience of security personnel (I do respect all job profile, but come-on don't play with your students) and couple of Britishers with experience of Govt. Benefits.

Apr 02, 2013 02:42 Report Abuse

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rain1226
comment|36216|58294

yes . we have known it .it's realty. more china job need the native speaker because there real skill in pronouncation

Mar 22, 2013 10:37 Report Abuse

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veranse
comment|72012|1635993

i'm sorry to tell u that i am from Africa, Cameroon to be precise and i have an amazing accent. I am proud to say i pronounce a hundred times better than some native speakers.

Jul 05, 2016 13:27 Report Abuse

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RitaB
comment|36208|242174

Interesting! I used to be surprised by people turning me down because I was from the "wrong" place... Guess China has a LONG way to go to an equal opportunity employer.

Mar 21, 2013 22:19 Report Abuse

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honky
comment|36212|237572

RitaB, would you care to explain about the "wrong place" you are mentioning?

Mar 22, 2013 01:26 Report Abuse

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RitaB
comment|36215|242174

Well, I've had a hard time finding a job as a university professor. Even though I have a Master's and 5 years of experience in my own country (Slovakia). I have IELTS band 9, so English was not a problem. All the employers seemed interested in was my passport))) But this is just my experience.

Mar 22, 2013 09:50 Report Abuse