Short Skirts, But No Flirts: Deciphering Chinese Women’s Sexuality

Short Skirts, But No Flirts: Deciphering Chinese Women’s Sexuality
Sep 24, 2012 By eChinacities.com

We must close the curtains! exclaimed my soon-to-be-wife as we got down to getting to know each other a bit more intimately one lazy afternoon. Given that we were in an 18th floor apartment in a building that was conspicuous for its isolated height, I couldn't quite decide if this idea was charming or absurd. On the other hand, at that particular time, I didn't give it quite the amount of thought it deserved. Everything about the situation was all a bit surprising for me, a middle-aged Englishman. At that time (over ten years ago) I'd been in China for less than a year and Chen Fang was the only local woman I'd had the good fortune to become familiar with.

Of course there were signs of a similar priggishness in the classroom. Having started English-teaching about ten years before in central Europe, I'd become used to Czech and Slovak teenagers flirting with me, often quite outrageously. It was great; I loved it. It added a dimension of excitement to lessons that English grammar normally lacked. When I first moved to Asia and began teaching children and adults in Indonesia, I was more than happy to find that the same thing happened there—despite the country being such a religiously obsessive place. Then I moved to China and…oh dear. Was I getting old? Had I lost what desirability I had ever been lucky enough to possess? Or was there something odd about Chinese women?

Do Chinese women lack sexual awareness?

It took my relationship with Chen Fang to answer these troublesome questions. I soon found that my wife's general awareness of sex was akin to what must have existed in Britain around the 1950s or earlier. Watching movies with sex scenes often amazed her (though being Chinese she wasn't too quick to admit it) especially showing positions just a little more adventurous than usual. And that was heterosexual stuff; later, movies like Brokeback Mountain, proved almost too much for her. Other Western friends confirmed that it wasn't only my wife. One colleague started living with a well-educated, city-bred girl and was nonplussed to find she thought that she could get pregnant from performing oral sex. What shocked me more than a little was my wife's lack of awareness about her own body.  By talking to her and hearing about her friends and relatives, I came to realize that the old idea of masturbation being dirty and unnatural was quite prevalent among them and their generation. They didn't know their own bodies and consequently didn't really know much about what would give them pleasure. Later still, I would chance upon Xinran's excellent book—The Good Women of China—and then I began to understand more the real levels of ignorance that had tainted women's lives in China.

Back in the classroom I found intimations of similar problems. One textbook actually used the word flirting: students told me—after the self-conscious giggling had died down—that it was quite a bad word in Chinese (打情骂俏), and they made me feel like I shouldn't have used it. Then there were the adult students who spoke about their university lives as being nothing but studying, studying, and more studying.

But didn't you have a girlfriend? Didn't you do anything to enjoy yourselves?

No, of course not, we were too busy studying.

Where did this kind of repression come from then? Was it just like the West used to be?

Of all the religions practiced in China, perhaps the influence of 19th century Christianity promoted the most negative attitudes towards sex. Taoism and Buddhism seem more relaxed in comparison. Neo-Confucianism certainly has something to answer for in terms of treatment of women, position in society, and so on. And then there is foot-binding. When most Westerners write about this, they either seem to adopt a patronizing or a coldly objective viewpoint as if the subject has no parallel at all with treatment of women in other countries. Clearly, foot-binding was a pretty extreme form of what might be called the hobbling of women: keeping them in their place (at home, dependent on men), and forcing them to conform to the demands of a male-dominated society…Well alright, the strictures of Islam spring to mind. But have we in the West never had anything remotely similar? Just think of the constricting underwear of Victorian women with their hooped skirts restricting movement and tightly-laced corsets forcing women's bodies into unnatural shapes (the higher the social status, the more constricting the clothes). And, for the 20th century, doesn't the fashion in high-heeled shoes bear more than a little conceptual similarity?

The more things change, the more they stay the same

In a wider sense though, things in China are obviously changing. There have been sex shops on the streets (not just back streets either) for some time. Over in Tongli (about 50 miles from Shanghai) Professor Liu Dalin has been allowed to open his China Sex Museum—the fact that he's a respected sociologist must have helped him escape the ire of the authorities. And people do seem to have been enthusiastic enough to visit in some numbers; so much so that other branches of the museum have opened in Guangdong, Shanxi and Hubei. In the classroom too I've noticed changes. One class of exuberant teenagers I worked with recently paired off very soon after coming together—no problems with girls and boys sitting next to each other there. And they were always quick with jokes about things like yellow movies and Japanese teachers, suggesting that they'd either managed to download pornography or taken advantage of the easy availability of adult DVDs.

And yet…old attitudes about mistresses have resurfaced along with growing economic prosperity. The number of ernai—second wives—a man has can be taken as a direct token of status. And criticism of the same can be used just as in the past: a useful hook for nailing corrupt (or otherwise unwanted) officials. One recent news report described a local high official as being punished for raping ten underage girls during an official investigation. And like so many similar news reports in China it only gives enough information to provoke a hundred more questions: Why were so many young girls involved in an investigation? What on earth was being investigated? Why did the official get away with raping so many girls before something was done? Even the recent tribulations of Bo Xilai, the super-mayor of Chongqing and leader-aspirant of the CCP, have given rise to similar internet stories: specifically, that he paid a top movie star 1 million USD for sex—on each of ten occasions no less. It's probably only the fact that he's been completely discredited already that has led the government to ignore this other alleged moral failing of his (but can't you read between the lines and get the sense of wonder and respect for a man who would or could do such a thing? A million dollars! Ten times!).

Shorter skirts and better sex education

The past few summers here in Jiangsu have seen young women asserting their God-given right to dress pretty provocatively (I can't help noticing). Both the China Daily and in particular the Shanghai Metro authority have seen fit to comment—the former to question the propriety of this; the latter to warn women that they might well be inviting sexual harassment and should pay attention to how you dress,at least on public transport. And the resultant Sina Weibo survey prompted a majority conclusion that supported this. My personal feeling is that Chinese women (and not only my wife) are more than a little innocent about such ideas. They dress in shorter and shorter skirts and tighter and tighter shorts because it's the fashion—not because they want to inflame men's passions so unbearably. A case in point is the way so many women ride two-wheeled transport wearing such things as short skirts, apparently oblivious to the effect they might be having. I was truly amazed when I first began to notice this—doubly amazed (if such a thing be possible) when I failed to spot any Chinese man paying the same goggle-eyed attention I was. But then my wife had a conversation with a cabbie who admitted he loved working in the summer for precisely this reason: being able to look up women's skirts. So it's just Chinese men being inscrutably careful in how they look.

Whatever you feel about censorship, whatever you think about increasingly explicit sex scenes in movies and the availability of pornography, one thing is absolutely for certain—China needs more and better sex education in schools (Although one could also argue that even the most explicit sex scenes in feature films never show someone putting on or wearing a rubber; pornographic movies, on the other hand, often do). Oftentimes, it's such simple ignorance of how to properly use a condom that leads to unwanted pregnancy (and what must be untold misery); putting condom machines up on street corners or just allowing boxes of prophylactics on open display at supermarket check-outs isn't enough. Serious surveys suggest that younger Chinese are practicing pre-marital sex, though all too often without any form of birth control leading, not too surprisingly, to more abortions. Equally disturbing are the statistics on happy/unhappy marriages with the balance weighted far too much the wrong way and unfulfilled sex lives being cited as a prime cause.

Meanwhile, whatever the changes in China, I can't imagine my wife will ever feel comfortable about leaving the curtains open . . .
 

Related links
Cash vs. Culture: How Sex Sells in China
Sex Education in China – In the Dark or With the Lights on?
Overcoming the Taboo – The Evolution of Sex in China

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Fez Miester

As a PS>
No one is TALKING about how INSECURE women are in this country. it's amazing. just scary actually. I dunno how they got so wide spread insecurity..

But if you don't take that into consideration, - serious consideration your not thinking about 'women' your thinking about your own desires.


I'm sure they open up quite nicely, but that's true everywhere.

;z)

Sep 26, 2012 20:47 Report Abuse

Fez Miester

Well the article was not broad -enough- because i could add more cultural examples from Europe and US to. However lets give some beans for having the guts to write it and put it up ok?
I read it because I am amazed at what i see after my first month living in China.
Yes those short-tight shorts are either worn by 12-15 year olds in the states or hookers. & it does seem that the girls are shifting from first to second and maybe third gear but never putting on the gas. --This is just the 'fashion' right now right here.. it's odd to see, because it exemplifies the differences between cultures a bit. Not that everywhere else people/girls don't follow trends and fashions, but here the mentalities don't go with the persona they may be copying.

I would say that that this is one of the friendliest places I've seen. - no comment about that was made directly. In relation to the fact it is not open sexually. it's not. (but it's a free socieity – you can have bf or gf unlike other parts of the world) if you don't see that you haven't lived in enough countries. and a lot of the negative heckling in the posts about
"pervert xpats', and expectations of teachers in China, is formed from already created opinions or experiences with individuals maybe. I see the repression walking around in Prada here!!!!

& who ever made the comment about how old Chinese society is. Well yeah it is, but look how stupid it's become NOW! -consumerist, detached from nature, unbalanced. Send me back to Eastern EU!

It's true this is an older society then the UK, forget America. but I just came here from living in Greece for 8 years and that society is dammmn old ya know?
--
If I want to draw a possible parallel. Is what we call the 'maria complex.' Your the good girl of the family. Your innocence is your Chasity.
There are a culture of men there, that only desires the 'bad / dirty' girl but, when they meet the girl of their dreams and fall in love with them, they no longer desire them because once they do it becomes like a family relationship. - the lust is removed. - Maria then never gets sexually satisfied … unless she goes and gets a bf because then she's the bad girl again..

that's a very extrema example, and is not 'the normal', but It's a case in point.
Yes I married a Greek woman and we were together 8 years** who didn't have that syndrome but I watched her friends.

The shutters! Blinds/curtains! Yeah, I can just imagine that being the case here, I can smell it in the air!!
(I hate it) – it's not cute in my mind. It's under developed logic mixed with a complete lack of priorities at that time. Or worse the wrong priorities. But the psychological proportieral onals of it are wider then speakable. –
I mean I had this girl, we could go out and have sex in the woods, in other 'public' open places, but at home the curtains had to be closed... Nvm we were broadcasting to the neighbors through the walls anyway.. but that's a broader mystery then Chinese girls. Lmao

The friendliness in general here could be mistaken for flirtation a little.
(I had a girl walk up to me yesterday on the street) You are ..blond/blue etc.. and you play guitar (yes I was sitting on the bench playing guitar) Do you have a Gf!?! I'm like 'no, not now', She was flabbergasted. If she hadn't show that she was completely shallow in the first 2 minutes I wouldn't have been so bemused. – this (nvm the short shorts she was waring) was friendliness. Not flirtation..

You have to be pretty level haded guy here not to mistake the two sometimes. I' think only 1 girl has actually flirted with me in the last month (locked eyes for minutes at time)--that was the only (semingly universal)- way I had of telling, between other girls who worked at the same school. -
who were just teasing the living F out of me. But maybe that was a flirt or not. - everyone is flirting if it is. And I don't know if I AGREE with the title of the article...

I see a pretty much joking society myself. Which is the first stage to flirtation usually... so if your not seeing that then we're living in different Chinas.

*but acttually jumping in the sack, well, yeah... how many places you go and your good / normal / girl just runs into that situation? Not many, you get lucky sometimes ;z) but you have to know how to look for those anywhere. (I charge for those lessons haha)

their have been admiring eyes, and comments but that's different.
It's like dealing with 12 year olds with credit cards, short skirts, and maybe a BA who are completely not sexually aware.

It's WEIRD. c
Like some people say that Chinese don't have body language. - this is complete BS. But their body language in this area might be next to invisible to us. I mean after living in Central America, USA, Europe I think I've seen some range but you can still swap casinos and play poker.
Here... I haven't figured it out yet.

True what was said about college students. - college is very serious work here, no time for play, for messing around, you go there to work work work work.
Afterwards I don't see iddle aged people doing any play really really though... You see some old guys playing flute or an instrument sometimes... or what? Going fishing is ply or need?
ADDICTED TO TV AND CELL PHOENS IN THIS CULTURE OMG OMG

Like 'chat', has replaced the ability for people to show intentions through body language I don't think so. So It's still only 21st century here. But the 'contextual' relevance of messages/body language I think MAYBE WAY IMPORTANT THAN the individual messages.
--this maybe the meaning 'of freer' society, because we can give any message at any time we want. –

but flirting with teachers.. I don't say Chinese students are well behaved.. but they respect their teachers in another way.. take College as an example.. they work their tails off. - in younger students they are still working their tails off. The downward pressure to do so is killing them. And to flirt with a teacher is completely prioritized badly.

Also what is missing from this whole thread, Is how 'this subject' relates to the concept of 'saving face', it's not related strictly but societies are multi threaded... Someone else may know the answer to this question – I don't.

Sex education is one of the most controversial topics in some societies. With the population growth I believe no one Is teaching them. ;z)
(educational yellow films? ;zz)

Sep 26, 2012 20:04 Report Abuse

whipstar

Go on. lead the way. Whip it out

Sep 27, 2012 03:34 Report Abuse

chongchong

you are a lucky guy,hah

Sep 25, 2012 02:42 Report Abuse

Jaman

I've been to a lot of different places in China. First arriving at the Sports College in Beijing, seeing students pawing all over each other in public - We (a visiting college group) were shocked. Not what we expected in China! Many young adults are curious and adventurous, while others are conservative, ignorant and/or uneducated. I don't feel this article is explicit in recognizing the vast variety of people. As it's been said before about China, nothing is what it seems. What appears is not always accurate.

Sep 24, 2012 19:37 Report Abuse

cuteish

i hear that but not all are that annoying cute girl. You do meet some that are actually grown up. though sometimes try it out.

Sep 25, 2012 05:36 Report Abuse