Employer vs. Agent, Best Way to Get a Chinese Visa

Employer vs. Agent, Best Way to Get a Chinese Visa
May 20, 2011 By Sarah Meik , eChinacities.com

When deciding if you want to get a visa through an agent or through your employer, you really just need to ask yourself one question: do I want a real job, or do I want a sort of-not-really job. Do I want a full time, secure job at a reputable company for more than 6 months, or do I want to be independent and only work when I don’t want to travel on the weekends.


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You see, “real jobs” (salary, air-fare reimbursement, even health insurance and paid vacations) are only given to those with a Z visa. And Z visas are only given through an employer. This is because the purpose of the Z visa is to make sure employers are paying necessary taxes on the foreigner’s salaries. Because of this, most schools only employ those with a Z visa. Even if you came to China on an F visa, if you sign a yearlong contract they will usually demand you go through the process to change it to a Z. This way, you are officially on the books and they cannot be slapped with a fine. It’s like you’re a real employee.

If they fire you, or you quit for any reason, they can indeed cancel your visa. In fact, they should. You are no longer working for them, and that was the sole purpose of the visa anyway.

But what do you do if you want a steady, full time job, but don’t want to commit for the year? If you don’t end up liking the job and you quit, the school can cancel your visa and your entire trip to China could be cut short.

One thing to do is talk to your employer about your concerns. Tell your boss you want a grace period to see if you like the job before they file for your Z visa. If you like working there, you’ll agree to change your visa to a Z, if you don’t like it you can leave, and they have no documents to lord over your head. Most schools are willing to negotiate on little details like this, because the qualified foreigner that actually wants to commit for a year is hard to find. If you’re already in a bind at work and looking to get out, find a new job willing to give you a new Z visa before you quit. Iif you quit, your first place of work may not give you something known as a “work release form,” which is basically a piece of paper that says you are no longer working for them and you are free to work elsewhere. If you don’t have this form, it could be difficult to find a company to hire you without one.

According to Chinese law, a Z visa is supposed to only be given to those with a college degree. This is why so many schools put a 4 year degree down as a requirement on job postings. It’s not that being a college graduate makes you a better teacher; it’s that they have to jump through hoops to try and get your work permit if you aren’t one.

Now, this is not to say that one cannot find a good job without a Z visa. In fact, there are plenty of small companies who will only hire foreigners with their own visas, whether it be an L or an F. This is because they are not licensed to hire foreigners, and cannot issue visas of their own. These are usually the language schools that pop up around universities. They hire the foreign students on their student visas for part time work. These companies pay “under the table,” handing the students a sweaty wad of cash every payday, without any paperwork to show for it because they’re not really supposed to be hiring them.

It is in fact, a beautiful symbiotic relationship. The school needs any foreigner lying around to teach a few nights a week, and the student needs some RMB to take the sleeper train to Guilin. The student gets his disposable income, and the school gets its disposable teacher.

Now, certainly not all schools are like this. And many do offer a great teaching experience without the commitment. It’s just that if you want something long term, you will eventually have to say “I do” and issue your visa through your employer. Any other way would be illegitimate.
 

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rainbow2011

Maybe lawyer is the best option. Some of my friends received the visas from a law firm whose name is jay and shaw. My friends said that the firm is with years of experience in helping expats living in China to deal with legal issues. Its specialties include but not limited to prenuptial agreement, marriage, divorce, inheritance, lease, real estate investment, labor and employment, IPR, establishing business, criminal defense, civil representation, etc. In addition, it has a close networking with other business agencies visa agencies included. Its mail seems to be inquiry@jayandshaw.com.

Nov 15, 2011 20:00 Report Abuse

Steve

after six months on an f business visa, can you get another six months through an agent?

May 28, 2011 00:32 Report Abuse

WILLY

Can anybody suggest a serious working Visa company in QIngdao? Please reply us

May 26, 2011 07:33 Report Abuse

Techezee

You have to have a Z visa to work, it's only valid for 90 Days and them will be changed to a resident visa. You are not able to get a Z visa if you don't have a foreign expert certificate and all other visa's are illegal to work on. Many people get by with working on other type's of visa's but it's a hugh risk. Sounds like the guy who posted this is looking for and creating trouble. Guangzhou and Shenzen will allow 6 month business visa's to work in schools but after that it must be changed. Beijing, Guangzhou, Tianjin, and Shanghi are the only proviences requiring foreigners to go back to their respective countries for a working visa. If a school does not give a letter of release it's probably a digruntled training school EF to be specific or something the foreigner has done to make the school angry.

May 24, 2011 22:07 Report Abuse

Techezee

A Z visa can only be recieved if you have a foreign expert certificate. It is done first and the Z is done later, it will then be changed to a resident visa before it's 90 day expiration. But a Z visa is a working visa entrance visa not a resident visa but it is considered the working visa. Interpol has no dealings with the Chinese laws and a black stamp in a passport from China is only for 3 to 6 months and then is no longer valid. Freshen up on your politics Barry, sounds like you're trying to scare people. Disgruntled or completely fed up with Chinese politics I don't know but sounds like you should relax.

May 30, 2011 22:15 Report Abuse

miles

I agree, Barry check your info first before writing rubbish. Interpol have absolutely no power in China and as the poster says, the stamp is usually 6 months, that is the law.

Jun 18, 2011 00:03 Report Abuse

adrian

Quote: "and your name will be register with Interpol." Really? WOW ! :):):) Are you sure about this?

Jun 21, 2011 12:21 Report Abuse

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Jun 08, 2011 23:18 Report Abuse

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