University Graduates Speak Out Online Against Parents’ Impossible Expectations

University Graduates Speak Out Online Against Parents’ Impossible Expectations
Aug 13, 2012 By eChinacities.com

Editor's note: This article, translated from Southcn.com, briefly discusses the growing dissent amongst graduates from China's top universities towards their parents' impossible-to-fulfill expectations of them. Many of these parents have it in their minds that because their child graduated from such a prestigious university, it should be easy for them to earn a high monthly salary. What they don't take into account is the influence of external factors, such as an unstable economy, extravagant marriages and a shifting job market.

"Dad, I'm really sorry – I graduated from Peking University and became a government official, but I am not earning enough money."

With this year's graduation season now upon us, another wave of students are rushing to enter the working world. However, compared to previous years, more and more students are beginning to speak out against the immense pressures they're feeling from home to become the next big government official. An anonymous Peking University blogger posted the above apology with the follow-up question: "Do your parents really think this way?"

Further describing his dilemma, the blogger wrote: "I graduated from a M.A. program at Peking University and found a job offering a 8,000 RMB monthly salary, an end of the year bonus and a bit of free time to boot. The job seemed like a good fit for me since I don't have much of a desire for anything too luxurious. But my father had already bragged to all of my family members about how I'm going to make tons and tons of money. When he heard about this job offer, he flipped out and said that I made him ‘lose face'. He even called me up a bunch of times just to curse me out over the phone and say that, as a graduate of Peking University, I should be a city or province level official, not some lowly village level official."

For many parents and students, dreams don't equal reality

These days, anonymous posts likes the one above are becoming all too frequent on Chinese social media sites. One blogger recently posted, "My father thinks that since I graduated from Peking University with a PhD, if I'm not making at least 10,000 RMB a month, then my degree is a waste."

Another one wrote, "This year, my boyfriend and I are getting married. We're both graduate students and my boyfriend doesn't want to spend all of our savings on a lavish wedding, but our family members think that since we are Peking University students that we should be throwing ‘the party of the century'. They don't understand that we're just graduate students, and that even if we didn't spend any money for several months, we still wouldn't be able to afford a wedding on par with what they are expecting."

Posts such as these have become a hotly discussed topic with Peking University students and netizens alike, with most people agreeing that, "The pressure on Peking University students is too much! They have to work so hard just to live up to their parents' expectations!" Another blogger summed it up in the following way: "Parents already pick on their children for 20-plus years while they are in school studying. It's not until after graduating from university that they quickly realize that their parents will continue to put pressure on them to succeed for the rest of their lives; there is no way to live up to their expectations. It's always about more money or more fame."

Yesterday, Professor Xiong Bingji, an education specialist, in an interview with Southcn.com remarked, "Actually, it's not just at Peking or Tsinghua; students from all sorts of schools—especially prestigious one—feel an immense pressure from their parents to succeed. But the dream doesn't equal the reality. Going to a prestigious university doesn't mean your child will automatically get a high-paying job as a government official. This mentality leads to false hopes for the students as well as the educational system."
 

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flip

i must add that in a society where its institutions do not develop students cognitive ability but cramming and high test scores are favoured in the interest of parents gratification of their wards super human abilities, such is their only fate.
Well,my take is they can consult MR BILL GATES and query him over his HARVARD CERT, if he has one at all or if it played any part in his amassed wealth?

Aug 15, 2012 20:08 Report Abuse

kaitangsou

The 1% rich in the USA, their kids sit around all day sniffing...what's the point of this question then?

Mar 13, 2015 00:45 Report Abuse

FruitIsGood

That said, finding jobs in China is a little different than other countries. Guanxi often gets in the way of more qualified candidates filling the positions. Many parents give a red envelope to one of the fellahs for entry to said fellahs' company (irrespect of their kid being able to do the job). This is what the Chinese must compete against.

Aug 13, 2012 23:46 Report Abuse

siyingyuan

I'm not sure if I agree with you. Most of my friends (Chinese) were supported by their parents and don't work till they finally graduate, but they have no problem getting up in the morning and go to work on time. They seem to be surviving pretty well in China. I agree that there are people like that in China (as well as any other country), eating off their parents support at 30 something, but that's not the norm.

Aug 16, 2012 10:00 Report Abuse

Duke

So your saying that they teach different and better information at the "prestigious" schools? Do they use different numbers in math class? Is history different if you attend Harvard? Does Yale teach their own brand of English? I agree that the quality of teachers varies from school to school however, do you really think that knowledge attained from a "backwater" school is different from the knowledge attained in a "high level" school?

Aug 13, 2012 18:40 Report Abuse

fruitisgood

It's a different environment. It has a different impact on its students. The level of competition is on a different scale.

Perhaps the content is the same. Perhaps even down to the same textbook, but for some subjects the classmates and professors you attend class with may make all the difference in how the class impacts you.

Aug 13, 2012 18:56 Report Abuse

J

Well, yes.

In a US university math class, the actual numbers may be the same at two different institutes but the professors, research opportunities, technology, teaching abilities will differ vastly from a prestigious university to a "backwater" one.

Prestigious and elite universities teach students how to write, how to think, how to discuss and how to adapt better than an average university does so the expectations are different after graduation.

Aug 13, 2012 19:01 Report Abuse

Duke

BTW Yes, I attend a small university in America. However, that was a financial decision and had nothing to do with whether or not I could have attended a "high level school". Even though I could have attended one of those big name schools, I didn't have the money and didn't want to graduate with a mountain of debt. My class mates that attended those schools are now strapped with tens of thousands in debt, while I owe nothing to no one. Given the chance to do it all over, I would still make the same choice.

Aug 13, 2012 19:19 Report Abuse

bilnkk

china and its exaggeration mentality,,,degree is degree university ranking is something else,schools are ranked by human

Aug 14, 2012 06:07 Report Abuse

kaitangsou

Fruithead...u talkin kak!! it is is always up to the student dude...so why did Einstein not go to some IVY League...wtf went wrong??? You are a nutter...a book is a book, whether you read it in a library for free or the same book for a million bucks in a so-called top school...you are so brainwashed it is scary, you Chinese?

Mar 13, 2015 00:39 Report Abuse

FruitIsGood

Einstein also ended up on a very good campus once in the US, where his environment and daily talks with other like-minded people helped him process his thoughts. Einstein and Goedel talked a lot about time and other advanced topics. They wouldn't have had such an opportunity had they not been in the same area. Books are books, but taking the class from the professor who wrote the textbook for Japanese, for example, was a big bonus for me in my Japanese class. Having an environment where other students are also trying very hard also adds to one's own motivation/learning. You can't say that that those sorts of things don't aid in one's studies. Often at lower-tier universities or especially degree mills, this sort of thing will be lacking.

Aug 13, 2015 10:28 Report Abuse

Duke

Maybe now people in China will stop putting so much importance on the "name brand" when it comes to schools. I have never understood this myself. Whether you get a degree from Peking university or Xi'an university, its the same degree! Do people actually think one is "better" than the other? Chinese people are notorious for putting too much importance on the "name brands" rather than actual value for money spent. Many will spend 10x -50x more money on something than they have to in an attempt to gain precious "face". Hopefully the new generation in China will stop this silly practice. A degree is a degree, just like a purse is a purse and a shirt is a shirt. Whether one costs more than the other makes no difference in the real world. It's about time people all over the world(not just China) realized that.

Aug 13, 2012 16:37 Report Abuse

fruitisgood

If you're comparing a top 50 university I would agree with you, however there is a stark difference between a top 50 university and an unranked one.

Are we talking solely about universities in China, or worldwide?

The difference between degree mills' and highly renowned universities will also be quite extreme when it comes to their level of academics and preparation for the working world. Sure if a person is motivated and dedicated to studying the topic/major at hand, this can be overcome.

You are directly influenced by your surroundings. This definitely applies at universities. If they are among the best/hardest working students on the planet, most people will also rise to their peers. Many professors may also have better classes or at least opportunities for their students.

Aug 13, 2012 18:41 Report Abuse

fruitisgood

@DJTM

I believe Tokyo is in the top 25 on most world rankings of universities that I've seen (and I think most of them place Hong Kong University ahead of Tokyo University). I don't think I've ever seen it in the top 15. What ranking has them as #1 or #2?

Aug 14, 2012 02:19 Report Abuse

blah

earn

Aug 13, 2012 16:02 Report Abuse

blah

How much exactly those who graduate from prestigious university?

Aug 13, 2012 15:49 Report Abuse