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How to Be Critical of China Without Sounding Like a Jerk Foreigner

Feb 07, 2012By Christopher Myer, eChinacities.com   
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1d:

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Too often I hear people say things like, 'That's stupid', 'this is illogical', 'that makes no sense', 'there is no sense...', etc.

A more accurate response would be something like, 'I don't see the sense in that', or 'It's beyond me'.

There is a logic in everything that happens here, it is just that as outsiders we don't understand the thinking/method in the perceived madness.

I have learned that is something seems stupid, it is me who does not have all the information. Common sense is learned, what I learned is different to what a Chinese person may have learned (in a given circumstance). And as with most 'common sense' things, they cannot always be explained other than "Well it's commons sense, isn't it".

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 01:22
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2Musicjunkie:

I don't agree with you at all,most Chinese I have met in the two and half years I have lived here definitely do not have "an encyclopaedic knowledge of Chinese and World history", I would definitely argue that they are largely ignorant of the world outside China. Most educated Chinese understand full well what the problems are within their society but simply feel powerless to do anything about it. They are very intolerant of criticism simply because it is not considered good social practice to give direct criticism.

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 02:11
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3jon:

Totally, most Chinese I know are so clueless when it comes to the rest of the world it's unreal. I've had people ask me if Canada is part of the US. It's a totally different country.

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 18:08
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4Francois:

You might as well be. I dont know, but from where I sit, Amerifa seems to own Canada, who like their English masters kow tow to everything America tells them to do. France at least has the guts to stand up to America unlike Canada and Angland.

ReplyFeb 08, 2012 11:56
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5Wy Gren:

agreed on the point raised by previous poster. Chinese do NOT have super levels of knowledge of the outside world. They WILL of course know about any Chinese person who has gone to the outside world and made it big thus supposedly in the eyes of the average Chinese 'bigged up' China. Yao Ming being the obvious example, even more so than Jacky Chan.

China has a problem where it thinks it is the be all and end all and unless it concerns China, the Chinese are not concerned.

It is pathetic.

and China would save a ton of face if it got out a dictionary and taught all students from age 0 the meaning of the word 'quality'.

ReplyFeb 23, 2012 17:25
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6jixiang:

I can understand squat toilets, but what's the problem with drinking hot water?

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 09:00
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7Harry Paratestecles:

There's nothing wrong with hot water but it's ridiculous to have to endure a lecture about how you need to drink hot water to keep your stomach warm. If you drink a room temperature glass of orange juice...you can die.

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 14:40
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8Rain:

My girlfriend said that Western men are stronger because they drink cold drinks (obviously to do so is a feat of strength and bravery). She also said to me "Sometimes I think you are like god." - So this is a woman whose opinion we can take seriously.

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 17:10
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9Harry Paratestecles:

Rain: What about cold hemlock?

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 17:58
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10Zhaohong:

Really? MARKED

ReplyFeb 14, 2012 23:42
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11beaufortninja:

In my experience, Chinese students have minimal knowledge of history, even their own. Ask the standard Chinese person how many imperial dynasties they can name. They'll say Qin, Han, Tang, Ming, Qing and forget the rest. I actually had a student say the US was only 100 years old. Public education fail.

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 09:05
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12TrumpetGlory:

The US has plenty of people who can't point out China on a world map. I'm not sure your point is as strong as you feel it is. Presumably it is that that student who claimed the US had a 100 years of history said so with a large amount of certainty that made it eye opening...

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 09:52
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13hey-hey:

granted. But that's just US. I'm sure students in most other countries would have idea where China is on the map ;)

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 10:15
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14lmf:

yes they sound almost as ignorant as any US high school student, who is clueless on most things in life and especially about the world...

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 10:35
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15dobber:

I think the author is saying just this. But also saying, don't try to call them on this, as they will call you.

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 11:19
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16Harry Paratestecles:

Really? Show me one person that can't point out China on a map that is either not blind or severely retarded or has Alzheimers, etc. Don't just pull things out of your ass and assume them as facts. That's way more stupid than not knowin where China is.

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 12:14
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17crimochina:

many of you are missing the point. it is one thing to be ignorant of something and be open to the idea that you may be wrong or dont know. but here in china there is an unwillingness to accept that maybe you are wrong. when someone says all westerners eat are sandwiches, burgers and pizza (everyday), they will be shocked everyday and everytime they see you eat something else. becoz they refuse to accept that what was told to them by their chinese teachers, govt, parents etc. was wrong. and they will never accept what an outsider says becoz outsiders are inferior. only chinese (han) are real people.

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 14:56
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18Anonymous:

Some Americans don't know where Canada is or think Canada is a city. Many Canadians know how ignorant Americans can be but American generally don't realize this themself!

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 21:39
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19bchinaby:

Really?? I've been all over the U.S. and have never heard one person who thought Canada was a city or didn't know where it was. Maybe there are some complete hermits or very uneducated people that don't but in every country you will have some of those rare exceptions. Sounds like a bit of ignorance is going on up in Canada...

ReplyFeb 07, 2012 22:11
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20Ottawa Jack:

At no 15. I lived for 8 years down south and the only Americans who fit your profile would have to be like 3 years old.

ReplyFeb 08, 2012 00:37
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21Anonymous:

Don't you thnk many Americans have IQ of 3 years including their presidents? Bush and Reagan to name a few. Get it right!

ReplyFeb 08, 2012 02:45
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22jixiang:

Many Americans are indeed very ignorant about the rest of the world, far more than Europeans. So are many Chinese and Russians. I think it is something to do with living in a very big country. The rest of the world seems irrelevant.
To be fair, I think most well educated Chinese are very well informed on their own history, but they can be surprisingly uninformed about the outside world, especially on events which don't impinge on China.

ReplyFeb 08, 2012 08:54
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23Nulo:

Wow! For a bunch of three year olds ruling the world, they seem to be doing pretty well! On the other hand, that does not speak very well for the rest of us!

ReplyFeb 08, 2012 11:52
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24Harry Paratestecles:

Well...as long as you're being fair about it, jixiang.

Anonymous: You're obviously a fucking genius. Why are you wasting time on this forum instead of solving world hunger or running for public office?

ReplyFeb 08, 2012 12:52
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25DBWuhan:

I am one American that can think for myself and understand that I am a guest in China not a walking GOD. Two things that are often on this comment section or any other comment section is American and Chinese bashing. I tell my Chinese friends not to kiss up to White people because it gives them the idea that they are better than the rest of us and want to change everyone's way of life. I like this website it has good info but we can do without the culture bashing. America has it's idiots like the rest of the world so please give us a rest on how enlighten Europeans and Canadians are, we all have a dirty past and it took time for us to get it right!

ReplyFeb 09, 2012 14:21
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